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Big Boulders - vigin ground?

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When I dredged on SF Yuba river in Ca., I fantazised at night about blowing up the ten-15 ton boulders that were randomly scattered
along the river. I just knew there would be ounces of virgin gold underneath. Has anybody actually tried this, or spent weeks trying
to winch these monsters?
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Mar 28, 2013, 12:23 AM#2419GottaMinute 419GottaMinute is online now419GottaMinute's AvatarusJul 2012colfax, caGarrett gtax 400373 140 times Prospecting
No, but I've had nightmares about getting trapped under one of the BIG ones upstream from the bridge at mineral bar...goosebumps thinkin about it right now
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Mar 28, 2013, 01:45 AM#3NeoTokyo NeoTokyo is online nowNeoTokyo's AvatarusAug 2012ReddingEyes - Gold Bug Pro736 135 times Prospecting
Have you thought about using and inflatable bladder along with a winch?
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Head in the water, butt in the air.
Now I know why ducks do it!
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Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Mar 28, 2013, 02:03 AM#4Reed Lukens Reed Lukens is offlineReed Lukens's AvatarusJan 2013Alta, CaliforniaWhites GMT, Vsat, MXT, 5900Di Pro, Minelab GPX 5000, GPxtreme, 2200SD, Excalibur 1000405 194 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Yup moved lots of them, broken, blasted, ecobusted, jacked up, good gold.
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When you say ecobusted - you mean the expanding "foam"? And which method, hypothetically, do you prefer?
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Mar 28, 2013, 11:38 AM#6kuger Charter Member Icon kuger is offlinekuger's AvatarCharter MemberNov 2007California,M.X.T.& Tesoro Tejon8,007 1249 times Banner Finds (1)Gold & Silver
I have winched a bunch of em,but had one that there was no way a winch would move and it was on private property so had the land owner bring down his back hoe.We tried moving it with that....didnt happen.We decided to chain brace it back as well as we could and likely against my better judgement,I proceeded to dredge out out it(if it did go,it would have been quick,I wouldnt feel a thing...wouldnt have to worry about drowning )I had been getting good gold all the way to it and behind it so I just knew the glory hole was beneath.....long story short as I got through the over burden surrounding it,I exposed rocks and oak wook timbers still preserved and holding that rock in place!What really amazed me was that in the 150 years or so since that had been done,the gravels had became hard pack again,need less to say there were no easter egg sized nuggets....actually was very little even flood gold
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Kuger - I've heard several stories like that. Its amazing what the old guys accomplished without gasoline powered equipment! Was your boulder in deep
water or shallow? If in deep water, you think they "turned out the river" to get to it?
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Quote Originally Posted by FullpanView PostKuger - I've heard several stories like that. Its amazing what the old guys accomplished without gasoline powered equipment! Was your boulder in deep
water or shallow? If in deep water, you think they "turned out the river" to get to it?...that was the other oddity Fullpan.....that was a 20' deep hole(to bed rock)and was in a part of the river I didnt think...or there was no evidence of them turning the river,but must have?
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Years ago I read an article in the GPAA mag that told of a couple of guys dredging up in that neck of the woods. The came to a waterfall and knowing how gold likes to settle into glory holes in places like that they decided they just had to gt to the bottom of it and see what was there. Of course there were some monster boulders at the base of the fall that they couldn't winch out of the way, pry up, or move in the usual manners. To solve their problem they hit on the idea of sinking 55 gallon drums into the water, lashing them to the boulders and then pumping them full of air again. That did the trick and their efforts were rewarded with a major glory hole that besides the usual small nuggets and flakes held a 13+ oz nugget that was shaped like of all things a Banana! So it can pay to do all that work and to exercise the brain by thinking outside the box. (or in this case drum)
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Yes, it's a powder. Guys prefer things that go BOOM
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Quote Originally Posted by FullpanView PostWhen I dredged on SF Yuba river in Ca.,You mean you used your portable filtration unit ?

Camping at my claim one night the miners from the claim below mine came by for a visit. He said they had been working for several days moving a Volkswagen bug sized boulder and did well using their portable filtration unit on the material under it. They asked how I did. I said pretty good. I was proud of the gold I had found using my portable filtration unit They then proceded to show me several vials of the gold they recovered. Needless to say, I didn't bother showing them my gold.
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great video - thanks, Reed.
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That was my portable filtration unit - calnatv in 1st pic. 2nd pic, my better-half with gold-hiding boulder in background. There are about ten of those
monsters in the vicinity. She's standing about ten ft from river just a few ft above water-line and bedrock.
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To explain a little more about 2nd pic - Found my best gold/quartz nugget ever about 25 ft from where Joyce is standing. This was the outside bend of river
The boulders seemed to have fallen from mountain above long ago. There was evidence of coyote-holin between boulders although I couldn't tell how old.
And finally, jabbing my suction nozzle blindly under the boulder I could reach from the river, I recovered almost a 1/4 ounce of "black gold" (covered with a
thin crust of black mineral). So, wondering what others would do in this situation?
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