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.hoverscroll {border: #000 solid 1px;}#my-list {width: 100%;}#my-list li {width: 80px;height: 80px;background: #fff;border: #000 solid 1px;} (function() { var cx = 'partner-pub-7140863250046446:6305075452'; var gcse = document.createElement('script'); gcse.type = 'text/javascript'; gcse.async = true; gcse.src = (document.location.protocol == 'https:' ? 'https:' : 'http:') + '//www.google.com/cse/cse.js?cx=' + cx; var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(gcse, s); })(); Work Safely to not Tear your body upWelcome guest, is this your first visit?Login: Save? HomeForumToday's PostsThe Hunt Starts HereLog In Register --------Charter Membership TreasureNet Home TreasureNet Forum Beginner's Guide Treasure in the News! Advertise Here! ----Top Boards---- Todays Finds! What is it? Coin Roll Hunting Everything Else General Discussion Artifacts Metal Detecting Beach & Shallow Water My Daily Snapshots ----Treasure Legends---- Aztec Gold! Beale Codes KGC Oak Island Tayopa Lost Dutchmans Swift Mines Peg Leg Mine Kokoweef Victorio Peak Jim Bowie's Cave The Pearl Ship The Adams' Digger Others ----Reference---- Events Clubs Historical Images Code of EthicsShowToday's Finds!What Is It? The Best Of...My Best FindsMetal DetectingGold Prospecting Beach DetectingRelic HuntingGeneral DiscussionCoin Roll HuntingEverything Else ----Jump To---- Treasure Hunting Metal Detecting Forum Gold Prospecting Forum Research & Techniques Artifact Forums Geological Forums Collectors Forums Classified Ads Miscellaneous By Location ----Banner Finds---- Banner Finds Forum ActionsMark Forums ReadFAQForum RulesHelp!/FeedbackReal or FakeQuick LinksView Forum LeadersMetal Prices Oil & Gas Prices ClassifiedsWorld Clock Link to TreasureNet!Personal PagesMetal PricesActive TopicsWhat's New?GalleryGalleryAlbum GalleryPicture GalleryLatest AlbumsMy AlbumsAdd AlbumCharter MemberCharter MemberUpgrade! Live PostsLive Chat Charter Member Forum Forum Stats Online Games!Advanced SearchHomeForumGold Prospecting ForumGold Prospecting Work Safely to not Tear your body upMember
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Hi All 63kbpkr here and fresh out of the operating room on the 18th of March 2013.

The MRI indicated I had a completely torn rotary cuff, that's a tendon and muscle combo and is a part of the miracle of our bodies. In addition the MRI hinted at other damage in there.

When my surgeon got in there he found the rotary cuff tendon/muscle so damaged it was not useable. He used a portion of some similar tendon/muscle nearby to perform the surgery.

How did I manage to do this over time to myself. I work very hard and thereby get lots accomplished including really messing up my shoulder. In 2010 I found a fun paystreak along a river bank. I went at it with shovel and 5' long pry bar. With the pry bar I found I could move very large boulders but as the bar was a relatively short lever arm I needed to exert a great deal of energy to lift the boulders. This high stress spread out over a month or more of this type of work likely caused some damage. After I'd finished doing the dig and pry bar routine I had quite a trench started and to keep the bank from eroding I filled the trench with a lot of boulders and this likely added to the damage.


I've also done a fair amount of chain saw work cutting up firewood, tossing the logs and doing typical firewood duty and this could have added to my shoulder damage.

My hope here in sharing this with you is to alert you to the damage we can create to our own bodies by doing the things we like to do. We can still do them but we need to work our bodies less by using cable pullers and longer pry bars. Will I still do this type of work, Yes! But I will be smarter about it.

So I've one shoulder repaired and one more shoulder to be repaired as well as a knee to be repaired and I hope this does not sound like fun to any of you as it is not and it will be costly.

Caution to all to take care of yourselves out there...............63bkpkr
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Mar 20, 2013, 08:30 PM#2tridge800 tridge800 is offlinetridge800's AvatarusSep 2012Jamestown ncGarrett at gold68 5 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Wishing u a speedy recovery!!
LinkHylian likes this.Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Mar 20, 2013, 08:37 PM#3calnatv calnatv is online nowusMar 201128 23 times
Glad it went O.K.Great advice. Unfortunately you'll be out for a while. I'm sure mine wore out from years of dredging and rock chucking. 8 months later and I'm still doing therapy. I don't have 100% motion, but my strength is back.
Do your therapy and don't get hooked on those pain pills. They are no fun getting off of.
rodoconnor likes this.Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Mar 20, 2013, 09:00 PMOriginal Poster#463bkpkr 63bkpkr is offline63bkpkr's AvatarusNorthern CaliforniaAug 2007Northern CaliforniaXLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster1,365 362 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Right on folks on all accounts! Thank you for the well wishes.............63bkpkr
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Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 12:22 AM#5Oakview2 Oakview2 is offlineOakview2's AvatarusFeb 2012Prather CAWhites GMT734 285 times Prospecting
Herb

Hope you have a speedy and complete recovery...
"The most inspiring thing about gold, is not the value, but under magnification, the true beauty of each piece. They are truly like snowflakes that never melt." Oakview2
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 01:54 AM#6NeoTokyo NeoTokyo is offlineNeoTokyo's AvatarusAug 2012ReddingEyes - Gold Bug Pro726 130 times Prospecting
Someone has to say it, could you show us some of that gold that you found in the paystreak?

Its good to hear that your doing better though, wise words for the young and dumb for sure (I am in that range! lol)
Head in the water, butt in the air.
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Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 02:49 AM#7LinkHylian LinkHylian is offlineusLink's CloneDec 2012WA StateGarrett AT Pro + ProPointer312 78 times Prospecting
Thank you for the advice, heal up quick!!!! Hope you get something cool and bionic implanted btw.
"The pieces of the Triforce are resonating."
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 08:22 AM#8Hoser John Hoser John is offlineusMar 2003Redding,Calif.2,277 312 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Like a dog after a juicy bone,the fever sets in and the boulders fly and the elbows and shoulders die. Kaka hapens as much better to have flown like a eagle for a hour than waddled through life like a fat duck and never done nuttn' cool. Heal up Herb and come on up as in the gold again bud,then aches and pains frozen in frigid waters but the dwts. a oro puro sure making it feel much better,that and my new vibrating heating pad John
calnatv likes this.Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 09:03 AM#9russau russau is offlineMay 2005St. Louis, missouri2,019 114 times
well 63, welcome to the club! i also just had rotator cuff surgury on my right shoulder and had it done on my left shoulder 4 years ago..................and herniated 3 vertabras in my lower back. PT is where its at right now and the heck with them pills!trying to get my streangth up for dredgeing this year. OR itll all go up for sale!
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 09:23 AM#10calisdad calisdad is offlinecalisdad's AvatarusSep 2010Groveland, CA801 146 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Wishing you a speedy recovery....... and a longer prybar.
63bkpkr likes this.Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 10:21 AM#11DesertNuggets DesertNuggets is offlineDesertNuggets's AvatarusMar 2011Tucson, AZGold Bug 2365 50 times Prospecting
Get well man! Gold awaits.
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 11:30 AM#12robgwv robgwv is offlinerobgwv's AvatarusFeb 2013west virginiafisher f262 9 times Metal Detecting
Get well,Hunt hard... Just had mine checked out.Thought I tore something. Xrays say degenerative and arthritic changes.Not good news....Cortizone and have a nice day...Till next shot...
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 07:32 PMOriginal Poster#1363bkpkr 63bkpkr is offline63bkpkr's AvatarusNorthern CaliforniaAug 2007Northern CaliforniaXLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster1,365 362 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Well, I'm trying to post a reply with pictures and it is not happening easily, maybe its the surgery.Work Safely to not Tear your body up-181_8148.jpg Sierra river

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-181_8167.jpg Opening the vault

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-181_8187.jpg First signs

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-181_8198.jpg A little deeper

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-182_8221.jpg Lead, magnetic rocks and gold

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-182_8243_r1.jpg More effort

See next page, I hope
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Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 07:40 PMOriginal Poster#1463bkpkr 63bkpkr is offline63bkpkr's AvatarusNorthern CaliforniaAug 2007Northern CaliforniaXLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster1,365 362 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
So far so good, here's the second group to answer Neo's request:

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-182_8294.jpg More Work Safely to not Tear your body up-183_8304.jpg signs

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-183_8316.jpg New Equipment w/A52

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-183_8318.jpg More effort

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-183_8389.jpg A 52 cleanout

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-184_8416.jpg Diminishing signs

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-184_8420.jpg Site back filled

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-184_8445_r1.jpg More of the river

Work Safely to not Tear your body up-185_8515.jpg All the adventure on top of a 50 cent piece

So Neo, that's what it looked like..........63bkpkr
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Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 09:25 PM#15B H Prospector B H Prospector is offlineB H Prospector's AvatarusFeb 2010Black Hills, South Dakota321 139 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Heal quick 63 so you can get back diggin. Take care.

B H Prospector
63bkpkr likes this.Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 09:33 PM#16Fabrication Specialists Fabrication Specialists is offlineFabrication Specialists's AvatarusJan 2013Yuma, Az33 14 times Prospecting
Good evening 63bkpkr,
Best wishes on a speedy recovery. I am still recovering from a spinal surgery some months ago (L5-S1 fusion). People just need to slow down, think about what you're doing and always wear your ppe (personal protective equipment). I was a professional firefighter for 15 years before my broken back, and I can't begin to tell you how many injuries I've seen prevented over the years by the simple things like gloves and eye protection. Some times you're in a hurry to do something, left your gloves at the truck, forgot your boots at home or whatever but it's that little bit of carelessness and complacency when you get hurt. The old "I've done this a thousand times and it's no big deal" is when bad things happen. I used to teach my firefighters it as simple as a quick "risk vs benefit" thought process that can prevent an injury. Is the risk of what your doing worth the "possible" benefit? Sure you can "probably" unload the dredge yourself and not wait the extra 5 minutes for your buddy to get there, BUT is it worth it? That's my advice for the day to prevent injuries, if you're not quite sure what to do, step back take a breath and have a second look at what your plan is and think about the risk vs benefit of your actions. Sure a lot of times you can skate by and be ok and never realize an accident was so close to happening, but staying safe starts with you and believe it or not YOU doing something so simple as grabbing your gloves can remind the guy next to you to grab his.

Hopefully this was some help to someone, and we're wishing you a speedy recovery 63bkpkr!

Thanks, Chris
Chris Robertson
Fabrication Specialists
www.fabspecialists.com

"The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Yesterday, 10:48 PMOriginal Poster#1763bkpkr 63bkpkr is offline63bkpkr's AvatarusNorthern CaliforniaAug 2007Northern CaliforniaXLT, GMT, 6000D Coinmaster1,365 362 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting A little thought before being in action
Hi Chris,
Your comments are so correct! Some of my current problems may have been lessened if I'd taken another bite with the pry bar instead of pushing a little harder with the muscles. Think first about what one is about to do, are you in a hurry to get it done, time crunch - do it another day or time.

Thank you for the thoughts and best wishes..............63bkpkr
Out searching w/GMT & friend under my arm
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Today, 12:25 AM#18minerrick minerrick is online nowFeb 201316 7 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
I've got rotator cuff issues and pain that travels down both of my arms from my shoulders. I am doing PT and my Chiro tells me she will shoot me if I ever pick up another wreaking bar again. "NEVER" she tells me, should I even look at a wreaking bar. So now I am starting to see that this condition is an occupational hazard of enthusiastically mining.

So I will issue a warning to younger guys (unlike any warning any older guy ever gave me): PROTECT YOUR BODIES as it is the only one you've got. My Chiro tells me that after spending a day of working and prying rocks I should have been doing "reverse stretches" of my wrists (put them palm down or back of the hand down on a flat surface) and stretch out the tendons after a hard days work. The people who are working on me say my muscles are all bound up in my arms and they need to be stretched out before I can expect any pain to go away. It sucks as I have no grip strength, I cannot grasp and rotate my wrist and all hell brakes loose when I pick up a wrecking bar- pain from the tip of my fingers to the center of my back.

I've done pretty good, as I am 57 and only now am I getting pain. Fortunately, it isn't bad enough that I feel I need to take meds. I just try to stay away from doing stuff that inflames the pain. Hopefully I will get back in shape in time to start mining early this summer. And I will do the reverse stretches.
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Today, 12:41 AM#19Fabrication Specialists Fabrication Specialists is offlineFabrication Specialists's AvatarusJan 2013Yuma, Az33 14 times Prospecting
Good evening,
Man I wish I made it to be that age before I started having problems. Being a wildland firefighter for 15 years beat up my body BAD. Here's a quick list of my surgeries to rebuild me after beating myself to a pulp,

2 left knee surgeries
2 right knee surgeries
1 hernia repair
1 back surgery to remove nerves being compressed and causing pain
1 spinal fusion surgery to bolt my back together after I kinda broke it

all that and I'll be 35 next month! Yeah all you younger folks out there, take care of yourselves, or else life will suck later! You don't realize how much freedom you have as far as walking, bending, stretching, etc until you can't do it. Granted I had a great career and a ton of great stories, but when you hurt getting out of bed and all day, it's no fun. BE GOOD TO YOUR BODY!!!
Chris Robertson
Fabrication Specialists
www.fabspecialists.com

"The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"
Reply With Quote Reply With Quote Today, 12:51 AM#20minerrick minerrick is online nowFeb 201316 7 times All Types Of Treasure Hunting
Wow.... all those surgeries and you are only 35? So far no surgeries for me. The only time I have been to a hospital other than being born was last summer when I got dehydrated and my wife thought I was having a heart attack. I got to get a $17,000 a nite "hotel" room where they kept prodding and poking me all night. For that kind of money, you would expect you could get a good night's sleep.

I used to go pretty gung ho on mountain biking and skiing, but when I turned 53, I told myself, "what does it prove if you rack yourself up?", so I have since become more careful about how I do things. If I had a son, I would sit them down and have a "father/son" talk about aging bodies. It really gets fun when all your joints start making noise when you move them. My aging body is full of surprises. If any of you older guys have any advice, I'd like to hear what I have to look forward to. Are your bodies weather prediction devices? Not yet for mine.......
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